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SENATOR KODOS
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:49:00 -
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First turn off after playing for an hour, getting stuck on things. Im sure this is old but im new to the game and I am shocked that after a year of Beta testing, CCP released this game without fixing such rudimentary issues as this. Its odd to me that people have hope for this game when its trying to implement the long term slow methodical SP progression that Eve has in a console FPS. There is a reason COD is king of console shooters and its because people want things now, they want them easily and they are lazy. COD delivers exactly what its consumer base wants and it pays in the billions. PS4 comes out in less than a year and unless this game is being ported which I dont know if it is, adds another level of confusion as to where or why they even started this game. I have other points to make but I will wait to see if I get some community feedback on this before making a wall of text. Any replies are welcome. |
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:53:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:getting stuck on terrain and near objects is because UE is bulky and it sucks
I cant even get past the fact that the movement is this bad and they actually released this game after a year of testing.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:55:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:I have to ask you where people get this idea that COD players are lazy? Is it just because they dont need to wait for months to be able to use whatever they want or what? Although considering I know guys that played for months just to max out prestige and get a gold skin for their gun the whole they want what they want and they want it now falls apart
Anyway look on the brightside if you were one of the guys that went out and bought a PS3 specifically for this game, there are a ton of great console games you can play that dont have a PC port
What do you mean "you people" ? Anyways everything about COD is like fast food. But no im glad I didnt buy a console for this game and you are right I am looking forward to some upcoming PS3 games but I wanted this game to be awesome. |
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:08:00 -
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Anuliadon Gortusk wrote:Yes you get stuck on things yes it is a problem...we have read about this problem from every new player and it is justified. As far as COD if you want to play COD, go play it don't look for it in Dust. Dust is not a COD run-n-gun type game nor does it want to be. COD has the market cornered for the extreme casual gamer, eve as you know since you play it is not for everyone just as dust is not for everyone nor does it try to appeal to those extreme casual gamers. But yes the game has plenty of glitches and bugs and short comings no need for your wall of text we have all heard it. I'd encourage you to play the game some more before coming to a final conclusion as Dust can be a really fun game But regardless good luck in Dust or Eve!
Thank you and I will play longer to see everything it has to offer and I wasnt saying this game needs to be like COD. Im just aying there is a reason COD is the console king and its because it appeals to the masses where as this game and its SP commitment will never work on console imo.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:11:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:There is a reason COD is king of console shooters and its because people want things now, they want them easily and they are lazy. So basically what you're saying is you want things now, you want them easily, and you're lazy. When anyone can get anything at any time, then there is nothing worth having. CoD is garbage.
You must have trouble reading and this conversation is above you im glad to see. |
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:12:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I think it would be in CCP's be interests to effectively meld to two builds if they could.
Chromosomes Tanks, Aiming, Movement, Drop Ships
Uprisngs- Graphical Advancements, dropsuits, LAV controls, Weapons/Equipment content
Then fill the game out with the Racial Group Tanks, LAVS, dropsuits, Racial Standard weapons. We could help balance those so they can get on to working on those player markets, game modes, and EVE DUST links.
Im glad I didnt see this Chromosome build because this would be even more of a letdown. |
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:15:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote: You must have trouble reading and this conversation is above you im glad to see.
Funny that you would talk down to people in the same thread that you complain about the game not being dumbed down to your level.
Once again this is for people with normal responses. Not people who cant seem to read so you best be going now.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:17:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:Why is it that when I play different games, I learn to adapt to the new rules and system of that specific game but CoD players automatically shut down and cry because it's not enough like CoD, expecting the developer to bend over backwards for them. This unwarranted sense of self entitlement will send the FPS genre into the obscurity of fighting games in the late 90's.
Because thats how it is.
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SENATOR KODOS
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:20:00 -
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agustis caesar wrote:I began playing EVE online in May 2003. (check my toon in eve. Name: Sosus Red - inactive atm). I can tell you very confidently that eve had its share of issues in the beginning as well....and that was after years of development.
on an aside, I remember when peak time meant there was 1200 players logged in.
Ya I play Eve as well but im only a 2 year player and thats comparing apples to oranges. You cant compare Eve on PC to a console shooter on PS3. Well you can but the rules arent the same. Console shooters have a limited life. Even the best ones do.
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SENATOR KODOS
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:23:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote: You must have trouble reading and this conversation is above you im glad to see.
Funny that you would talk down to people in the same thread that you complain about the game not being dumbed down to your level. Once again this is for people with normal responses. Not people who cant seem to read so you best be going now. all forums are infested with blind fanbois , dust forums make no exception , so expect fire no matter how valid ur argument is
Ya I have lurked for a few days before posting so im aware of the people on here or any forum. Thanks though. |
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SENATOR KODOS
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:24:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Once again this is for people with normal responses. Not people who cant seem to read so you best be going now.
You aren't really responding to me, you're just using insults to shield your fragile ego.
Thanks Sigmund Freud lol. The guy who cant read and has a tissue paper ego is calling other people out on...... Ego of all things lol. Just leave already. |
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:32:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Thanks Sigmund Freud lol. The guy who cant read and has a tissue paper ego is calling other people out on...... Ego of all things lol. Just leave already. I think it is reasonably obvious that I am literate. Isn't that kind of a silly insult to use in a forum?
You are correct. I will change it to reading comprehension issues. You read the first post and all you saw was COD. Now you think I want the game to be like COD when I dont like COD and was merely stating that COD is successful because the majority of the console shooter base wants a game like that. Now lets look at it as you see it...
CODiloveCODIwantthisgametobelikeCODiloveCODCODCODCOD etc. |
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:34:00 -
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agustis caesar wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:agustis caesar wrote:I began playing EVE online in May 2003. (check my toon in eve. Name: Sosus Red - inactive atm). I can tell you very confidently that eve had its share of issues in the beginning as well....and that was after years of development.
on an aside, I remember when peak time meant there was 1200 players logged in. Ya I play Eve as well but im only a 2 year player and thats comparing apples to oranges. You cant compare Eve on PC to a console shooter on PS3. Well you can but the rules arent the same. Console shooters have a limited life. Even the best ones do. Very true. And honestly, CCP should not have pushed the game out as it is. It was released in this state because either: A. Sony wanted them to release it B. They needed to try to make some money I also believe that by the very nature of this game, it is different that other FPS's. WHich, depending on the future quality, may mean it has staying power. It took EVE a long time to even get 100k subscribers and it keeps growing because it keeps getting better. With that said, when I first started this game less than two weeks ago I hated it. now, I can see past the flaws and see the potential it has.
I agree with everything you said. My only issue is it hasnt even gotten past the getting stuck on things issue let alone the million other things. Thats where I dont see this game surviving and I wish it would. |
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:00:00 -
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DTOracle wrote:If COD already delivers what these lazy consoles gamers want, then why should Dust or any other game try & offer the same thing? I can agree that the bugs are annoying. But, I enjoy this game because it's nothing like COD. I didn't enjoy BF3 SP because it felt like a boring COD clone. If you want to play COD, go play it. there's a new one each year, & plenty of DLC for your enjoyment.
Because you want a large player base and CCP wants money. I agree with BF3 being a garbage COD clone but thats not my point. |
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:13:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:DTOracle wrote:If COD already delivers what these lazy consoles gamers want, then why should Dust or any other game try & offer the same thing? I can agree that the bugs are annoying. But, I enjoy this game because it's nothing like COD. I didn't enjoy BF3 SP because it felt like a boring COD clone. If you want to play COD, go play it. there's a new one each year, & plenty of DLC for your enjoyment. Because you want a large player base and CCP wants money. I agree with BF3 being a garbage COD clone but thats not my point. BFP4F is better then bf3 an cod, hell BFH is more fun.. who cares if dust is rocky, we are here right? we can play it,.. so play it an shut up. COD is boring, like is it really fun getting 100 kills a game? I would rather play at 1400+ elo in BFH,..
Which leads to me my next point. The community is toxic. Not EVE toxic but it has potential to be as bad one day. |
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:21:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote: You are correct. I will change it to reading comprehension issues. You read the first post and all you saw was COD. Now you think I want the game to be like COD when I dont like COD and was merely stating that COD is successful because the majority of the console shooter base wants a game like that. Now lets look at it as you see it...
CODiloveCODIwantthisgametobelikeCODiloveCODCODCODCOD etc.
Actually I read your post in its entirety, and understood it just fine. You are complaining that the game is not enough like CoD. You can use the reasoning that "most people" want CoD, but you are just basically saying that this is how YOU want the game to be.
Ok where's the cameras? Im on candid camera arent I lol I knew it !!!!!! No one could seriously be this stupid IRL could they? The first 2 sentences were a thing of beauty. You read it and understood it and then tell me im complaining and I want it like COD lol. Utter moron or just messing im not sure. |
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:22:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:DTOracle wrote:If COD already delivers what these lazy consoles gamers want, then why should Dust or any other game try & offer the same thing? I can agree that the bugs are annoying. But, I enjoy this game because it's nothing like COD. I didn't enjoy BF3 SP because it felt like a boring COD clone. If you want to play COD, go play it. there's a new one each year, & plenty of DLC for your enjoyment. Because you want a large player base and CCP wants money. I agree with BF3 being a garbage COD clone but thats not my point. BFP4F is better then bf3 an cod, hell BFH is more fun.. who cares if dust is rocky, we are here right? we can play it,.. so play it an shut up. COD is boring, like is it really fun getting 100 kills a game? I would rather play at 1400+ elo in BFH,.. Which leads to me my next point. The community is toxic. Not EVE toxic but it has potential to be as bad one day. I roam forums each day, there funny to read, an most of the avid posters here think the world is going to end, try playing the games more.
I disagree and agree if that makes sense.
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:28:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote: You read it and understood it and then tell me im complaining and I want it like COD lol. Utter moron or just messing im not sure.
Tell me how the following quote is NOT complaining that the game is not enough like CoD: SENATOR KODOS wrote:Its odd to me that people have hope for this game when its trying to implement the long term slow methodical SP progression that Eve has in a console FPS. There is a reason COD is king of console shooters and its because people want things now, they want them easily and they are lazy. COD delivers exactly what its consumer base wants and it pays in the billions.
Where do you see the complaint exactly? More like a commentary on the consumer base but hey because you have an infantile intellect I can see how you think I was complaining. Thanks for clearing it up though, you are an utter moron.
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SENATOR KODOS
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:42:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote: Where do you see the complaint exactly?
Definition of COMPLAIN 1: to express grief, pain, or discontent Are you not expressing discontent about the "long term slow methodical SP progression"? SENATOR KODOS wrote: More like a commentary on the consumer base but hey because you have an infantile intellect I can see how you think I was complaining. Thanks for clearing it up though, you are an utter moron.
I can't even imagine the massive intellect required to continuously pump out such witty insults.
First question. The answer is no since I play EVE. Second point you tried to make. You saw the letters COD and went blind from fanboy rage and have been in a tailspin ever since. |
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:55:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote: First question. The answer is no since I play EVE. Second point you tried to make. You saw the letters COD and went blind from fanboy rage and have been in a tailspin ever since.
Your posts are becoming less and less coherent. I just started playing Dust a week ago, so it's odd to define me as a fanboy. I do like it a lot, precisely because it is NOT like CoD and it is NOT like BF3. Just look at the title you chose for the thread. Are you trying to say that your intent when creating this thread was not to express your disappointment in Dust?
Why are you still here ? You should be trying to read pop up books.
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Posted - 2013.06.05 01:07:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Why are you still here ? You should be trying to read pop up books.
Sounds like a concession to me
No one cares how things seem to you since you cant comprehend a simple sentence. |
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Posted - 2013.06.05 01:27:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:derp
pretty much at this point. |
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Posted - 2013.06.05 01:36:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Samadhi Shanti wrote:derp
pretty much at this point. Last bump
thanks |
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Posted - 2013.06.05 02:02:00 -
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General Technique wrote:S0LlD SNAKE wrote:getting stuck on terrain and near objects is because UE is bulky and it sucks It's so weird to watch that be blamed on the actual Unreal Engine, foolishly/naively allowing the developer to be free of responsibility. However, it's downright hilarious to see UE be accused of fault where the developer is to blame, when it's abundantly clear that there are many... MANY... many many many other shooters out there that seemingly managed to easily avoid this particular terrain/structure sticking issue a lot more smoothly/easier. I've seen some truly poorly built shooters that were using UE in my time, yet none of those had terrain/structure sticking after beta as bad as Dust514 does. Not a single one. And this is talking about the BADLY developed titles....
Yep agreed. They need to get a UE expert to come in and see what they did wrong because its horrid. |
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Posted - 2013.06.05 02:40:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:Somehow I have managed to avoid getting stuck even a single time
Why you gotta lie like dat dawg? |
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